The latest round of Capitalism Wars may have been kicked off by this post by Anti-Democracy Blog in which he advises us to “dump” something he calls “capitalism”.
Then Michael Anissimov posted an Evolian excerpt in which Jim detected the odor of Communism. Land loved Jim’s response. (And even if you disagree with Jim, you gotta admit he’s pretty lovable.) I thought Fuimus made an excellent stab at some middle ground on the issue:
I don’t know what “capitalism” is. I’ve never seen a “capitalism” in my life. Some people, like dirty smelly commies and much better groomed Sicilian noblemen, say capitalism is something the State can choose to have or have not. I say bologna. Politics is about power. By definition, the ruling elite that maintains the State has power over its subjects. It naturally wants more power, because power is security. The elites want security because they don’t want to end up dead or, worse, end up as common schmucks like you and me. The “ruling elite” and “common schmucks” are constants. They existed in communist Russia, democratic America, and beautiful Habsburg Vienna.
What people like Evola opposed was rule by merchants, because merchant classes tend to be groundless and amoral. Goldman-Sachs execs spilt their time (I imagine) between Manhattan, the Hamptons, Switzerland, London, the Dark Side of the Moon, and elsewhere. They (I imagine), don’t tend to conform to the social mores of Roman patricians or Medieval warrior-aristocrats–such as child-rearing, military service, and religious faith, because of attributes inherent to their profession. On their [own], they make a poor elite. But this is not “capitalism”.
Jim decided this was a teachable moment for us and provided some helpful notes on Capitalism and Entrepreneurial Capitalism in which we find “Capitalism”—a word whose wide usage in English seems to only have been as a response to “Communism”—actually dates back to Bronze Age civilization. According to Jim, double-entry accounting unleashed the great power of capitalism (gaining power and wealth through the use of wealth) by separating ownership of wealth from its management. He ends with the tale of Sarbanes-Oxley which may be slowly returning us to Bronze Age standards.
New International Outlook chimes in with Nietzschean Economics in which he attempts to reframe the discussion in terms of Anthropological Material Drive (AMD), which has at least the advantage of not summoning immediately to mind the images of fat, thick-whiskered, top-hatted bankers huskily plotting in dark rooms thick with cigar-smoke to find new ways to carve up the poor for breakfast.
My own theory of synthesis between the Capitalism-hating Ethno-Trads vs. Invisible-Hand Fetishist Post-Libertarians has to do with the deformities of Big Capitalism™ being caused and energized by Big Statism™; viz., that most of the bad stuff my Ethno-Trad friends rightly detest in the free markets come about not because the state failed to be a brake or a check on the free market, but because the state somewhere along the line actually cooperated with Big Capitalism™ to suppress the normal operation of the free market. As I said, it’s only a theory, but it isn’t getting much traction… the reason for that could be because it’s wrong.
Nick Land digs up Médaille’s 2009 Front Porch Republic piece The “One Salvation” of Ludwig von Mises and wonders whether reactionaries must choose between Mises or Jesus (or Moses) for their economic theories.
Finally, Neoreactionary Poet Laureate E. Antony Gray, aka. @RiverC the Polymath, delivered a fine bit of synthesis with There is No Such Thing as Capitalism over at J. Arthur Bloom’s Mitrailleuse:
In the same sense that the man [Obama] most people elected never existed, the Capitalism most people oppose or approve of doesn’t exist. And the only definition of it which makes any sense cladistically—that is, the practice of the Merchant class being applied to more sections of the economy and even society – is never really used. And if it is used it is used narrowly (to apply only to the Jews for instance) and so isn’t philosophically or analytically useful; it’s just a hammer that is convenient to be used against another thede. Therefore, we need a new term, a new symbol that clearly correlates to this cladistic entity, without confusing it with either a particular ethnic group, Private Control, or simply control by either the Bourgeoisie or those who ‘think like them’.
So repeat with me: Capitalism doesn’t exist. There is no Such Thing as Capitalism. If someone is using the term they’re only using it for effect: and that effect is to manipulate you.
That sounds about right. [Addenda: I just realized I left myself open to the inevitable anti-essentialist accusation again. But words used principally to manipulate should, for the purposes of clear thought, not be considered words. Personally, I like “catallaxy”.]
welp, we’re now Capitalism. I’ll have to change all of the drapes.
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there are rare men who can think independent thoughts, like Moldbug and Jim, and then there are normal men who should take direction. And what better authority than the teaching magesterium of the Church?
One can go much further than most men of above average intelligence with nothing more than a clear conscience and a refusal to be deceived or make pacts with devils (I’ll get a bit of satisfaction out of this next cookie. I’ll get sexual pleasure by forestalling my future and cheerleading for sexual sin. I’ll get the self-satisfaction of an incorrect view of my social status for hating my boss and cheerleading for communism).
If capitalism isn’t bad, and government isn’t bad, then what is? Once we eliminate the impossible, what’s left is what’s left; no thought is required to come to the conclusion in this article. I think the telos of nickbsteves is to state the obvious truth to an Internet movement and a world that does not want it. It is a Sisyphean task.
Anyway, the leftists are not wrong that those evil corporations are using the government. They are as aware of the revolving door as we are. Not that knowledge will do them any good when they have surrendered to Satan.
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Excellent post, excellent summary remarks.
You’ll not get much the sins of capitalism is due to the sins of Big Statism because Sir many in NRxn if not most who speak wish to capture the cathedral [Bryce for instance is quite honest about the matter]. I’ve phrased it as the desire to have the corner office without that idiot affirmative action hire at the desk or anywhere in the building except as janitor and they’re probably right about the janitor part. They’re wrong about anything recognizable about any reaction or trad values capturing the cathedral.
My conclusion on our elites has long been: They mean HARM and to PROFIT from the Harm. They proceed In Male Fides from motives of boundless MALICE and a venality so consuming and sociopathic the Venal is Mortal threat to Civilization itself. They are Hostis Humani and there’s no change of ideas, philosophy, government, King, Republic, democracy, aristocracy that can escape the consequences of their continued existence, they will do harm even from prison. There’s only one thing to be done. It’s not change the paradigm or attempt to ring them in with laws, constitutions, kings, bitcoin, software locks on the weapons et al.
A sociopath never mind an entire movement of them doesn’t care what flag or ideology he’s under.
How many of today’s uber capitalist tech warlords [war by proxy with color revolutions, Arab Spring] were good communists until 1989? If in the 1980s we had elected Democrats and withdrawn from Western Europe instead of Reagan do you think that Soro’s wouldn’t be an open Red? That the Washington consensus people wouldn’t have gotten behind the “Moscow Consensus”?
They cared about power and money until Clinton, since then the overriding motive is MALICE and the chief policy is HARM, they PROFIT from the Evil they do.
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@Peppermint – this is a Protestant country, even the Atheists.
And thank God. If it we’re Catholic or converted it would open the borders to every scum welfare and salvatrucha MS-13er in Latin America, and open in the name of social justice every store of wealth to the likes of Soro’s. The Papal Coat of Arms is now on a Red Field Peppermint, it’s the mirror of what happened in America 1989 fall of the Wall to 1993 the Clinton criminalizing of USG.
It’s bankers communism with welfare payments, and whitey’s out. The Church of Course Peppermint in general but especially in America see’s the 3d world as their great demographic hope. Whitey’s out in the Magisterium, Europe’s out, we’re OUT.
No White European epecially an American should darken the Churches door unless he wishes to be party to his own genocide. I’m Catholic of course and clearly past lapse into schism.
Give me a call when there’s a real Pope.
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Before modern economics there was mercantilism, and before that (so I hear) there were the writings of the Schoolmen. Do you, Mr. Steves, or anyone else, know what the Schoolmen have to say about oeconomia? Surely they deserve a voice.
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Not wrong, certainly correct. I’ve done case studies on a number of these.
What’s HR? It’s government immunity. It mainly exists to prove to the government they’re sufficiently obsequious.
Why is US-style ‘private’ healthcare worse than public elsewhere? Because it’s not meaningfully private. If you have to measure your regulation stack in feet of 8.5X11… The difference between US and elsewhere is that US voters also have to pay off the overhead of ‘private’ insurance companies, and that’s it.
Why are voucher schools not dramatically better than Prussian schools? Because they’re still Prussian. They still have to use accredited teachers, for example. Again it’s the feet-thick stack of regs.
A particular case study of HR: http://krellen.net/2014/04/24/when-you-say-im-privileged/ So, guy was fired for being paid more and saying so. A real capitalist would say, “That’s right, suck it up and get back to work.” But having blabbed about his salary, he instantly turned everyone non-white and non-male into a lawsuit risk. Punting him was the only reasonable solution. (I take his statement that he worked the same with a whole tureen of salt.)
Jim (I think) also pointed out that capitalists don’t want underclass immigration, they want H1-Bs and/or Dubai style immigration where they can turn it into a sword of Damocles. Immigration is all about Sophist-Sophist competition for votes.
I have links for some of those and can probably dredge up more if you want.
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(Etc.)
Hey! That’s the precise reason I don’t like the term. My solution is to be specific and precise instead of using this weird weirdness. If I want to talk about control of the means of production, I’ll say so. If I want to talk about cash flows or investment dollars, then I say so.
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@Peppermint: Well… it’s good to have a Telos!!
@Vxxc: No doubt some of our current crop of elites will have to die; others simply reeducated, but I don’t think there is as much a lack of quality in our potential leaders as there are perverse incentives for them. We are a protestant country, but couldn’t we Catholics have say… Maryland back?
@Escalona: I’m afraid I know little scholastic thought on economics. I’d certainly interested in what they had to say, but I’m not sure they anticipated a time in which money itself would become usury.
@Alrenous: Thanks for the vote of confidence.
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